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you could argue on the nsa stuff the guy was trying to protect individual rights. he thought there was a violation of the fourth amendment so he blew a whistle on this. there is nothing in here that is in the way of protecting american life. this is a disclosure of what we know, what we don't know which is enormously helpful to america's enemies. steve is right. if all of this had been published, if the post had put it all out it, it would ory.e been the worst leak in we can be sure there is zero chance that the chinese intelligence agencies and the russians don't have every, every iota of this. so all of this is known. >> much more than we are reading in the "the washington post." >> exactly. in the post it's a redacted version. but even that is telling us a lot o. this is a deeply harmful way to hurt the united states. >> chris: what did you learn? >> i don't see a redeeming feature in it. >> chris: i understand that point. what did you learn from the information? >> that list you start with the list of deficiencies. and there are other lists, endless lists of ot
you could argue on the nsa stuff the guy was trying to protect individual rights. he thought there was a violation of the fourth amendment so he blew a whistle on this. there is nothing in here that is in the way of protecting american life. this is a disclosure of what we know, what we don't know which is enormously helpful to america's enemies. steve is right. if all of this had been published, if the post had put it all out it, it would ory.e been the worst leak in we can be sure there is...
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. >> harris: merck's all coming out in the intelligence community so-called black budget, which the nsa leaker edward snowden gave to the "the washington post." the budget contains all sorts of information that's never been made public before how much spy agencies are spending and where all that money is going. u.s. intelligence agents keep tabs on enemies bells allies, rush sharks cuba, iran and israel all listed as priority targets for counter intelligence operations areas critical gaps in our nation's intelligence. mike emanuel with the news live for us in washington tonight. mike, what else is in this top secret spy toght document? >> harris, it's a 52.6 billion-dollar budget which includes the 16 intelligence agencies includes 107,035 employees. the cia -- covert action programs which includes those drones and it reveals u.s. surveillance is all around north korea. house intelligence chairman mike rogers is not amused. this is now public. quote, disclosures of our capabilities and programs jeopardize the efforts of the american men and women in the intelligence community who have d
. >> harris: merck's all coming out in the intelligence community so-called black budget, which the nsa leaker edward snowden gave to the "the washington post." the budget contains all sorts of information that's never been made public before how much spy agencies are spending and where all that money is going. u.s. intelligence agents keep tabs on enemies bells allies, rush sharks cuba, iran and israel all listed as priority targets for counter intelligence operations areas...
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fran townson and christian am pour and general hayden run the cia and nsa and a principal with the security consulting firm and zi serves on the boards of firms. christian, what is their reaction to this and in particular britain, which is capable of launching atom make missiles. are they saying they want the u.n. to actually publish a report before they are willing to make a decision whether or not to have military action? >> well the very latest, in fact, from great britain is presiepr precisely that. they said they will not join action against syria until there is a report from the u.n, but it seems like putting the brakes on momentum. with the draft un resolution under the chapter 7 which means under the use of force mandate and that got nowhere. there was not even a u.n. security counsel meeting today, so that was batted away and also, william hague, the uk foreign minister saying chemical weapons were used. this is a war crime and the world cannot stand by, and he this morning saying any reaction had to come sooner, rather than later, because fit was going to be a lesson, it needed to
fran townson and christian am pour and general hayden run the cia and nsa and a principal with the security consulting firm and zi serves on the boards of firms. christian, what is their reaction to this and in particular britain, which is capable of launching atom make missiles. are they saying they want the u.n. to actually publish a report before they are willing to make a decision whether or not to have military action? >> well the very latest, in fact, from great britain is presiepr...
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john king, and michael hayden, general hayden has run the cia and nsa and is a principal with the chertoff group and serves on the boards of several defense firms. christiane amanpour, you've talked to a number of folks around the world. what is their reaction to this, and in particular, britain, which is capable of launching a tomahawk missile? are they saying that they want the u.n. to actually publish a report before they're willing to make a decision about whether or not to have military action? >> well, the very latest, in fact, from great britain is precisely that. they have said now they will not join any action against syria until there is a report from the u.n. inspectors. we don't know all the details what the british mean about that, but it seems to be putting the brakes on what seemed like a lot of momentum from britain today, with that draft u.n. resolution, which was under the chapter 7, which mean under the use of force mandate. that got nowhere, there was not even a u.n. security council meeting today. also, the foreign minister saying chemical weapons were used, this is a
john king, and michael hayden, general hayden has run the cia and nsa and is a principal with the chertoff group and serves on the boards of several defense firms. christiane amanpour, you've talked to a number of folks around the world. what is their reaction to this, and in particular, britain, which is capable of launching a tomahawk missile? are they saying that they want the u.n. to actually publish a report before they're willing to make a decision about whether or not to have military...
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"the washington post" citing documents obtained by nsa leaker edward snowden reports that satellites were gathering intel as the mission occurred. "the post" reports the satellites were gathering atoraa fo torrent of electronic and signal intelligence. and we learned a pakistani doctor accused of helping the u.s. find bin laden will get a new trial. he was sentenced last year to 33 years in prison. senior u.s. officials told cnn in 2012 that the doctor worked with the united states but he was never asked to spy on pakistan and was asked only to help locate al qaeda terrorists posing a threat. >>> fast food workers in 60 cities walked off the job. workers want among other things their wages raised to $15 an hour. currently the median wage for fast food workers is about $9 an hour. the national restaurant association sees things differently, obviously. the group said in a statement that the industry not only provides fair wages for its employees, but also numerous opportunities for career growth. >>> we have an update now on the national zoo's newest panda cub. in a statement the zoo s
"the washington post" citing documents obtained by nsa leaker edward snowden reports that satellites were gathering intel as the mission occurred. "the post" reports the satellites were gathering atoraa fo torrent of electronic and signal intelligence. and we learned a pakistani doctor accused of helping the u.s. find bin laden will get a new trial. he was sentenced last year to 33 years in prison. senior u.s. officials told cnn in 2012 that the doctor worked with the united...
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it is now referred to as the nsa program. basically though what it did was it allowed us, and i'm confident the program we put in place, obviously i haven't been involved in the classified stuff since i left the white house but the program we put in place, saved as general alexander has said, the head of nsa, stopped over 50 attacks on the united states and our friend overseas, over the course of the last 10 or 12 years. we put in place the enhanced interrogation program, waterboarding, some people said that was torture. i don't believe it was torture. ksm may have felt like it was torture but the fact was enhanced interrogation program signed off on by the justice department, using techniqueses we used on our own people in training it wasn't torture no matter what anybody said. it was a good, legitimate program, that led to us develop the intelligence we had to have to keep america safe for seven 1/2 years. [applause] and it worked. the record speaks for itself. the cia put out a classified report in 04. we captured ksm in t
it is now referred to as the nsa program. basically though what it did was it allowed us, and i'm confident the program we put in place, obviously i haven't been involved in the classified stuff since i left the white house but the program we put in place, saved as general alexander has said, the head of nsa, stopped over 50 attacks on the united states and our friend overseas, over the course of the last 10 or 12 years. we put in place the enhanced interrogation program, waterboarding, some...
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we saw it -- i think we saw that coalition in the bill on nsa, where you could see congress saying, don't do it. >> i think there's a lot of skepticism. we talked to a bunch of members on this, on the intel committee, those who you would think would go -- wait you need to see what they'll do. what is the purpose of this? everybody's war-weary. what does this accomplish for us? >> the cover of "time," you know, is -- weekly news covers are meaningless anymore, we know that -- >> don't tell "time." >> i understand that. >> but i thought this was a very fitting cover. this president won the presidency, was going to be the guy to end these long wars. >> well, look, the president said, and i remember it well, he doesn't oppose all wars, just opposes stupid wars. the issue here in syria is the use of chemical weapons. the question before everyone is if that's a national security threat, the president and many of our european allies believe that allowing a country, especially in the middle east, to just use would help to destabilize world security. so that's the question. obviously we need to ge
we saw it -- i think we saw that coalition in the bill on nsa, where you could see congress saying, don't do it. >> i think there's a lot of skepticism. we talked to a bunch of members on this, on the intel committee, those who you would think would go -- wait you need to see what they'll do. what is the purpose of this? everybody's war-weary. what does this accomplish for us? >> the cover of "time," you know, is -- weekly news covers are meaningless anymore, we know that...
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and that talks in general figures, what the cia budget was, what the nsa budget was, and so on. that causes some harm, but not a great deal of harm. you go to the website and start clicking on things and get down to specific operational activities. that could be very, very disruptive. >> general hayden, thanks very much for coming in. we'll continue this conversation. >>> up next in our special report, how a u.s. strike in syria could set off a cyberwar. more on this when we come back. ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for business. one bucket of data for everyone on the plan, unlimited talk and text on smart phones. now, everyone's in the spirit of sharing. hey, can i borrow your boat this weekend? no. [ male announcer ] share more. save more. at&t mobile share for business. ♪ we know in the cyber world, thre
and that talks in general figures, what the cia budget was, what the nsa budget was, and so on. that causes some harm, but not a great deal of harm. you go to the website and start clicking on things and get down to specific operational activities. that could be very, very disruptive. >> general hayden, thanks very much for coming in. we'll continue this conversation. >>> up next in our special report, how a u.s. strike in syria could set off a cyberwar. more on this when we come...